New Jersey Expo….

More details are coming out on the recent NJ Vape Expo. For those who haven’t heard, this past weekend in Edison New Jersey they held a vaping convention with over 40 vendors, a number of events, and even an acoustic concert. New Jersey is a state we’ve talked about quite often on the podcast because of it’s clean air act preventing vaping indoors. This includes vape shops (though there is a bill in progress to exclude them from the ban, but it hasn’t passed as of right now, and who knows what affect this weekend’s events will have on it). That law was passed back in 2010 when CASAA was busy fighting against the FDA, and there really wasn’t any other major advocacy groups out there. It pretty much flew under the radar. Needless to say, it came as no surprise that a large number of fines of were handed out. I’ve heard between $10-50,000, but as of right now can not get a confirmation.

So why was this convention even held? That’s where things get muddy. You see the organizers of the event thought they had found a loophole. Where vape shops routinely look the other way when a customer comes in and tries a new juice or the like, that tactic simply wouldn’t work for a major vape meet. They thought by making it a private event where the participants had to pay they would be excluded from the clean air sanctions. Apparently that’s not the case, though it looks like there will be a legal battle. One with no winners though…

On one side you’ll have the organizers, certain vendors, and individuals who will fight their sanctions in court. This could result not only the fine being upheld, but with the added cost of legal fees. The publicity from this will only be fuel to the fire for the anti-vaping pundits and groups out there. I’ve already spoken to a few who have said this was a showing of a lack of respect and authority by the vaping community. People who were on the fence about it, and now lean more towards being against it. Fact this story has been picked up not only here in the states or surrounding areas of NJ, but internationally shows just how serious it’s being taken. Then we have the vendors themselves. Some have already talked of bringing a case of fraud against the organizers of the expo. Claiming they were lead under false pretenses to be part of this, and I can see their point…

The only good from this whole situation is hopefully this is will be a wake up call to anyone who’s state or area has purposed a public indoor ban. There has to be exceptions, otherwise the shops in your area will have no choice but to revert to the speak easy atmosphere of the prohibition days. Vape meets in those areas will be forced to be held outdoors flea market style if at all…

If you aren’t a member of CASAA, now’s the time to join. It’s free, easy, and most of all important if you want to keep your right to vape- CASAA

Answering some user feed back- Stainless Steel

On episode 30 of VR we discussed the new SS coils in the Aspire Triton tanks. I got an e-mail today asking for some further information. Figured would be better to answer it on here as well, than wait until next week on the show. Here’s the quoted text rom the e-mail-

“You mentioned stainless steel is a safer alternative to titanium. What exactly are the reasons why, and what’s the resistance of stainless compared to that of say kanthal or nichrome?”

We’ll begin with the safety aspect. Medical grade stainless steel (304 and 316) are two of the most inert alloys when it comes to human health. There’s a reason they’re both used in medical equipment, implants, and for cooking. They can take a lot of heat, resist corrosion, and the potential issue alloy elements are not going to leech or break off with use. Pretty much it’s the safest material on the market. The worry with titanium comes in the form of titanium oxide. While used in food colorings and sunscreen it has been labeled as possible carcinogen. There’s a lot of debate going back and forth on this, but for those who don’t want to have to worry about which side is right or take any risk, SS is a great alternative. Both metals handle high heat very well, and are far stronger than kanthal or nichrome. Both can be equally harder to work with though because of this. It’s just something to keep in mind.

As for the resistance. Have been scouring the internet looking for resistance numbers on stainless steel wiring the past few days with little results. Can only go by my personal testing with 34 gauge SS wire. Where 1.1″ of 34g kanthal is equal to about 2.0ohms resistance (got 1.98, but could have cut it too short), the same length of 34g 316 SS is about 2.2ohms (2.197 to be exact). Once I get a hold of some 28, 30, and 32g 304/316 SS wire will give a full side by side comparison of it versus kanthal and nichrome. Both 316 and 304 stainless are helped by the nickel content in the metal to make it less resistant than other steel alloys, 316 being 10-14% Ni. The steel I used from back in the day mentioned on the show was higher manganese and less nickel.

I hope this answer the question as best as possible. Sorry I can’t give any further data yet, but once I have the aforementioned wiring on hand to actually test can give a better run down.

It has nothing to do with Health

This is something we’ve been discussing in depth over the last few podcasts. I debated putting this up on the 4th or waiting until after our nation’s birthday had passed out of respect for the date. Only problem is as a nation we’ve lost respect for what that date stands for. Every year we’re overlooking more of why the founders of this country broke away from England- Unfair taxes. Only back then it was a 2% tax that sent us into a revolution, now we accept that almost or over half our income goes right back to the government. Will keep this focused only on vaping and smoking though.

Washington DC is one step closer to passing the 70% “sin” tax on ecigs. Montgomery County MD has already a 30% tax on vaping. Juno Alaska has also passed a similar tax. We keep seeing more and more of these popping up despite the fact there are many studies showing just how much safer vaping is than smoking. How much more effective it is than smoking. Smoking rates are down all around the country, and while some of the credit goes to the increased tax rate on tobacco over the past decade, a lot has to go to vaping. It’s the one product that has shown a greater than 5% success rate for those trying to quit smoking over that same time period. All the ingredients inside e-juice are FDA or EPA approved (PG has been since the 1950’s) by themselves, but not together. There’s no real reason to tack on a “sin” tax to an item that isn’t a health threat.

Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno put it best though when asked about his proposed smokeless tobacco tax being designed to help stop nicotine use or to collect revenue- “It’s both. I know it’s cool to say, ‘It’s about the kids. It’s not about revenue.’- it is about revenue. It’s also about acknowledging that this smokeless tobacco nicotine product is on the rise, whereas smoking is on the decline for a variety of reasons. Society is not accepting it any more. There are limited areas where you can smoke.”

At least we can give him credit for being honest. The government is trying to balance the budget. A budget they themselves screwed up, and instead of them taking a pay cut or losing their job as a majority of Americans would if they performed this badly, they’re turning to the pockets of the people they are so called “public servants” of. It is in essence the same reason our founding fathers fought back in the late 1700’s- Taxation without representation.

None of these fiscal choices has anything to do with public safety or health, and it’s not just the government at play. CVS was given a lot of praise by many media outlets and anti-smoking groups for their choice to no longer sell cigarettes or tobacco in their stores. What wasn’t reported was the fact that because of the affordable health care act, Caremark one of the largest pharmacy benefit management (PBM) companies in the nation, could not be used with any of the AHCA plans. By dropping cigarettes and their reported 2 Billion dollar revenue generated by it, CVS Health was able to sign a deal with the government to bring in at least 15 Billion over the next 5 years. Even if the cigarette sales are inflated, that’s a 33% minimum gain. Their choice not to sell tobacco again had nothing to do with health concerns, but with money.

And that’s what all these taxes come down to. The people in charge need their revenue stream. Instead of cutting back on pork projects and other wastes, it’s how can we bring in as much as possible. This is another reason why it’s so important you take action. Vote, contact your representative, and if they won’t listen get them out of office for someone who will. The people in charge are not our leaders, they are supposed to be our servants. That is the point of public office. To serve the people in your community, town, city, county, state, or country. The politicians have forgotten that, and we’re letting them.

A Beginner’s Guide to Lithium Batteries- Rev 3


Taken from Morandir’s personal site, really does belong here on Vapor Reporter.

Originally posted on Mind of Morandir:

Have posted this before on the old sites, but since they no longer exist figured it was time to bring it here. Besides the world of lithium based batteries is always changing. This is third version of this guide, and at some point know they’ll be a version 4. For now though it’s as up to date as possible.

When it comes to vaping there are really only three types of batteries to focus on- ICR, INR, and IMR*1. All three are lithium based, run at 3.7v nominal (4.2 fully charged), and come in the same sizes*2. So what are the differences between the three?

ICR (lithium cobalt rechargeable)-

ICR is not safe chemistry. They can/will vent with high pressure gas and flames, and possibly explode if they go into thermal runaway. (Which is why most of them ship with protection circuits. This adds length. A 3400mah efest 18650 for example is actually…

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Public Vaping

I see so many people having a fit because we can’t vape where we couldn’t smoke. I understand that it isn’t the same as smoking but others don’t see it that way. We need to respect the businesses and their choice to not let us vape in public places.

I covered some of this in the last podcast.

Most of you know I recently traveled from Pa to San Antonio. I live close to Erie and it is cheaper for me to fly out of Cleveland. When I was there waiting for my plane to leave, I vaped in the bathroom. I didn’t bother to ask if I could vape. I figured I can manage a few hours without a vape. I had a layover in Atlanta, which has smoking rooms, so I just used those. No problem in my book. Many people, like me can’t stand the smell of smoke now. I knew I would come out smelling awful but I didn’t care. I was able to sit in there and vape away without any second looks. Nobody cared. Perfect for me. It was relaxing oddly enough, just to be able to sit down and enjoy a long vape break.

While I was in San Antonio I visited numerous places. My daughter’s boyfriend arrived in San Antonio a few days after we did and I recently got him to start vaping so I had a vaping buddy while he was with us. It made me feel better to not feel alone. We went to the Hemisfair park, completely outside so vaping was not an issue, the Rivercenter mall, they had a kiosk so vaping was allowed inside the mall, (totally awesome) the Riverwalk, all outside so also not an issue even though from what I have read smoking is not allowed on the Riverwalk. We went to the San Antonio zoo with signs posted everywhere that due to regulations at all zoos smoking is not allowed, so we asked and we were allowed to vape anywhere. We didn’t vape in some of the enclosed places though just out of respect. These were the places that I was concerned about, all the other places I visited I didn’t have an issue because they were all out doors or I just waited until I got back.

We left from San Antonio airport and while we were there I just vaped in the bathroom. We had a layover in Detroit, which is a huge airport and we had 2.5 hours to kill so going to the bathroom every half hour would have looked funny. I had my daughters boyfriend ask the information guy there. He didn’t know the answer to that so my daughter, her boyfriend and the guy walked over to the security desk and asked. He said that it would be a good idea if he went with them so that he knew the answer for any future people who asked. The security guy said that vaping was allowed anywhere in the airport. There are currently no restrictions about vaping. I was so excited!! We decided to sit down at a restaurant and have a bite to eat before our flight. I asked the waitress if we were allowed to use these, pointing to my PV, and she said absolutely! I was just as excited about that. When we landed back in Cleveland I didn’t care about vaping. I was more concerned about seeing my husband and son. I figured I can wait until I get out in the parking garage and to the car.

My trip was good and I was excited to be able to vape in the places that would allow me. I live in a small town of probably 6,800 people so vaping isn’t as open as it is in some towns, but vaping out in the open felt awesome.

I don’t think we should be blowing this out of proportion. Be thankful that right now you can vape instead of smoke. Let’s worry about what’s most important, the FDA and state regulations that are threatening the vaping industry. After we get past that, then we can try to get vaping to be accepted in places that smoking isn’t. Vaping saved my life and I want to see vaping save many more. This is just my opinion, of course.

I want all the vapers that read this to think before you vape, think before you decide to get angry because they said no, think before you get angry when they tell you that you have to sit with the smokers. (Besides, sitting with the smokers might give you a chance to help a smoker make the switch) We need to set a good example to the people who don’t understand what vaping is all about, set a good example to the rest of the world. How else are we going to get the respect back? Think about that.

Ohm…. Are you relaxed yet?

This is one of the older articles from the now defunct site that really needs to be here. So without further rambling…

Why Resistance Matters and What it Means to You as a Vaper

Vaping equipment uses batteries. Most contain electronic circuits as well. Sure, we can vape without knowing anything about how it all works. But a basic knowledge of electricity and electronics can help us make good buying decisions, enjoy vaping more, and avoid problems. In this article, you will learn about resistance and how it affects your vaping.

At the heart of every cartomizer, RTA, RDA, drop in atomizer, etc. is a coil assembly that heats up when electrical current runs through it. The juice, or e-liquid, comes in contact with the heat and vaporizes. For those of you who have never used a rebuildable, if you have seen the little coil inside a standard incandescent lightbulb, or the coil heating element on an electric stove, you have seen this in action.

To make any coil glow, on the stove, in a lightbulb, or inside a cartomizer, requires an electrical current. The coil glows because the wire resists the current running through it. It heats up to the point where you can see the glow. That’s how incandescent lightbulbs make light, and electrical stoves make heat.

How much the wire resists the electricity is a factor of its thickness and length. More wire takes more electrical current to heat it; less wire takes less.

The scientist who discovered the principal of resistance was Georg Simon Ohm in 1827. He  came up with Ohm’s Law. The way we measure electrical resistance is named after him: ohms. What Georg Ohm discovered was that voltage, current, and resistance all work together, and that if we know any two out of three, we can calculate the third.  For example, if we know the current (as “I” in the equation) and we know the resistance of something (R), we can find out the needed voltage with this equation:

V = I x R

This matters to us as vapers because different battery and coil combinations directly impact how much vapor we can get and how long our batteries will last. In our vaping equipment, it works like this:

Battery: provides the voltage, measured in volts.

Coil: provides the resistance, measured in ohms.

Current is a result of how it all connects, how it flows in our specific equipment. This is measured in amps or millamps (thousandths of an amp).

When you push the button, switch, or simply draw in the case of automatics, voltage flows out of the battery and through the coil. The flow is called the current. The coil resists that flow the way a teenager resists getting out of bed in the morning, and it glows with the effort. The e-liquid touches the glowing coil and *POOF* we have tasty vapor.

The resistance of the wire coils in vaping equipment is measured in ohms, with lower numbers equaling less and higher numbers equaling more resistance. So a 1.8 ohm coil will heat more easily, with less current, than a 2.5 ohm coil. Another way to think of it is in terms of speed. A lower ohm coil will heat more quickly than a higher ohm coil.

However, it takes continual effort to heat a low resistance coil. It heats up quickly, but it also cools quickly. Higher resistance coils heat slowly and cool slowly. So using low resistance coils in vaping equipment can generate lots of vapor, but they will discharge your battery faster.

Another reason this matters, aside from the issue of battery life, is how it impacts the taste of your vapor.

The flavor of your juice, and the amount of your vapor, is directly affected by the resistance of the coil in your equipment, combined with the power of your battery and how that power gets to the coil, along with the amount of air reaching the coil. It’s Science, and understanding this science will help you find the “sweet spot” for your particular equipment.

The juice, or e-liquid, is what gives us that good taste and, if we use juice that contains nicotine, it delivers that to our bodies. How we heat that liquid and turn it into vapor directly affects the flavor and how it smells. It can even make a difference in how much nicotine is delivered, because heat effects nicotine as well.

Think of cooking. We’ve all had good food, and we’ve all tasted burnt food. If you make toast, there’s a fine line between crispy golden goodness and charred wreckage. So it is with vaping. The right amount of heat and your vapor tastes great. Too much and it tastes nasty.  Finding the perfect combination of heat and juice has a lot to do with the resistance of your coils and their configuration, which is the whole point of learning this topic.

Coils vary in two ways:  their resistance in ohms and how they are arranged inside the cartomizer or atomizer. We’ve talked about resistance, and we know that lower ohm numbers mean the coil will heat faster and use batteries more quickly.  That’s neither good nor bad by itself; the ohm rating is just a fact to know. Now let’s look at coil setups.

There are two basic coil configurations: horizontal and vertical. Horizontal coils lie across the path of the liquid and vertical coils run parallel to it.

We will cover the specific science behind each in another more advanced article. For now, just know that each of these configurations has a different effect on your vaping, and the only way to know for sure which you like is to try them out. Some people like horizontals, while others prefer verticals. Each produces a certain vapor profile (VP) and flavor profile (FP), both of which we will cover in depth in another article.

If you use stick batteries, meaning those that closely resemble cigarettes and where the cartomizer looks like the filter area, they can be either, though today most are horizontal. If you prefer the tanks that come with units like the Ego One, EVOD, list goes on, with clear windows that let you see the level of liquid, virtually all of those are horizontal or “bottom” coil. Other styles of tanks can be set up either way, and you’ll have to read up on your specific equipment to know.

Vertical coils have two variants: single coil and multiple coil (seen up to 3). This is a topic for another article, but right now just know that dual coils or more take more power and use batteries faster, but also tend to produce more vapor. This just makes sense. If one coil produces a certain amount of vapor, two coils will make more. It also follows that dual coil setups will use juice faster, the same way that a six or eight cylinder engine will generally use more gas than a four cylinder engine.

A multi-coil setup won’t work with every kind of battery. They take more power, and not every battery is up to the challenge. We will cover this more in an article about batteries.

Replaceable coils are available for many different types of tanks and cartomizers. If you buy your equipment at a good vape shop, you can ask them which coils would work best with your equipment. It helps to know that lower ohm coils will heat faster, discharge your battery faster, and use more juice while making your vapor. It’s also good to know that dual coils increase vapor production, but with the similar trade-offs of less battery life and more juice used.

To sum up:

  •    Lower ohm coils heat fast, make lots of vapor, provide good “throat hit” (TH – which we will cover in the article about Flavor Profile), but run down batteries faster and use juice faster. Some flavors of juice don’t taste as good on lower ohm coils.
  •    Higher ohm coils heat more slowly, make lots of vapor, give you less TH, but will bring out more nuances in flavor. It’s unusual for higher ohm coils to burn juice, which is why many manufacturers often ship their units with higher ohm coils inside. The batteries will last longer, and there will be fewer complaints about any burnt flavor.
  •    Dual coils produce more vapor than single coils, and give good TH, at the cost of shorter battery life and more juice used. Not all batteries can run dual coils, because of the extra power needed to make them work.

Final note: Earlier, we mentioned dangers. If you use off-the-shelf equipment and don’t tinker with your stuff, it’s highly unlikely you will ever have any problems. Everything should be smooth sailing. The following warning is for the übergeeks who like to dork with their equipment and make their own coils.

The Warning:  If you pair a coil of super-low resistance with a powerful battery, there’s a chance you could have a disaster on your hands. This is especially true if you use mechanical mods which have no protective circuits. Just as a lightbulb can blow when a powerful electrical surge runs through it, your coil can do the same and you could have a fire or worse. Our advice: unless you have a thorough knowledge of electricity and how ohms relate to voltage and current, don’t mess around with low ohm/high power custom-built rigs.  EVERY SINGLE STORY of vaping disasters has involved customized rigs used by people without knowledge or common sense. Nobody wants to lose a hand, so be smart and be safe.

For the rest of us who vape, just know that virtually all vaping equipment out there today has protective circuitry built in to prevent trouble. It’s safer.

If you have questions about your equipment, feel free to write to us at all the usual places or leave a comment here.

Dogs and vaping….

Anyone who’s been to the SoundCloud site has seen the image of one of our unofficial mascots Mario. He happens to be the world’s smallest pitbull, adorable, and a buddy to Rocco. The reason I made him the logo goes beyond that though. You see his brother Loki (the world’s smallest bull mastiff) has been with me since the start of my vaping journey. In fact his coming into our lives was a big reason I took up vaping. My wife hated my smoking, but took it a step further the day he came home. She refused to let smoke around her kid, and if I smelled of smoke wasn’t allowed near him. Loki’s not a fan of cigarettes either- not getting along with any of my still smoking buddies, and if they happen to be outside when he is puffing away, he gets as far away as possible. Vaping was a whole different situation. First time I brought home an e-cig was allowed to vape around him just as I was her. Mario (my kid) has only known me as a vaper. We adopted him a year and a few months after Loki when we moved into our house. Which brings me to why I’m even writing this blog.

Loki and Mario1

You see both dogs have been heavily exposed to my use of ecigs. I vape more than most, at my worst was doing close to a 30ml’s a day (now closer to 7-9ml’s). Neither has had any health issues from it, or even any adverse reactions to the accidental exhale to the face that happens from time to time. In fact Mario curls up on my lap quite often as I vape away on the couch. I’ve always been responsible and kept my e-juice secured from either of them. Lately been seeing a lot of articles pop up about the dangers of vaping and pets, and while some of the claims have merit, others are simply blown out of proportion to straight up misinformation. I know the dangers of PG and felines, which is why I don’t vape if Dany (our cat) is near me. The most dangerous part is if they swallow or chew on a battery. Followed closely by if they get into your juice, but same goes for a kid, or a crazy friend who decides they want to drink it (yes have had a buddy do that thinking it would be funny. A few mouthfuls later he regretted his decision). Child proof caps don’t stand a real chance with jaws that go through elk antlers in under 30 minutes, neither do tubes of steel.


I digress though. If you have dogs, vaping shouldn’t be an issue unless you don’t follow standard safety practices. Don’t let them chew on your mods, put your batteries where they can’t get to them (for me it’s on a desk in cases 3 feet above floor level where neither boy can reach), and secure your juice. In other words all the same steps you should take if you have young children in the house and are a vaper… At some point want to do a cartoon version of the two boys with a logo saying vaper dogs for the show. They are the reason (besides my wife) I got into vaping.

Mario Graduates