Aspire CF SubΩ Battery review

The Apsire CF SubΩ battery has been out for a bit, due to a visit from my buddy week before last was able to get hands on one and put it through all the paces. We’ll start with the dimensions and technical specs from Aspire then get into what the real numbers are from the testing. For those who listened to episode 22 of Vapor Reporter we spoiled some of the findings. Aspire makes a lot of claims which simply prove to be false in real world testing.

Length- 114.5mm, Circumference- 22mm, Output voltage- 4.2v, Capacity- 2000mAh. Features- 5 clicks of the button on and off, LED indicator light blue for 4.2-3.5v/orange for < 3.5v, compatible with resistances from .3-1Ω, low battery cut off indicator by the orange LED flashing 15 times, Spring loaded 510/Ego connection with juice well.

Aspire CF 1

These were designed with use with the Aspire SubΩ tank, but can be used with a wide variety of different 510/Ego set ups as the results will show. In order to test the Ω limits of the device used a Bliss V3 and Stratus 22. On to the actual output of the device. All tests were done with taking 3 puffs per minute ranging from 4-6 seconds long then recording the on load voltage. Off load testing was done with a 1.0Ω load due to that being the devices listed maximum load-

No Load 0.3Ω 0.5Ω 1.0Ω 1.5Ω 2.0Ω
Off Charger 4.22 3.72 3.78 3.83 3.86 3.91
10 min 4.14 3.69 3.74 3.8 3.82 3.87
20 min 4.05 3.64 3.7 3.76 3.78 3.84
30 min 3.96 3.58 3.67 3.71 3.72 3.79
40min 3.89 3.51 3.62 3.65 3.64 3.74
50 min 3.79 3.44 3.54 3.58 3.59 3.68
1 hour 3.72 3.35 3.43 3.51 3.51 3.61
70min 3.66 N/A 3.34 3.44 3.46 3.57
80min 3.59 N/A N/A 3.38 3.4 3.51
90min 3.5 N/A N/A 3.31 3.34 3.46
100min N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 3.39
110min N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 3.31

This is why I’m also not a fan of a manufacturer listing any theoretical use time. It’s a useless number. Aspire says 2-5 hours per charge, but as I’ve shown and stated many times your vaping habits will determine how long you’re getting from any said battery. I digress though. What we see are four very important findings. 1. The device is not regulated to 4.2v as it claims on the battery (which you can see printed on the side of the device itself from the picture and listed on Aspires site as well). 2. The logic circuit does prevent you from going below 3.3v on load. Doesn’t prevent deep cycling, but does prevent you from over draining the cell inside. That’s a good thing. 3. While the logic circuit does prevent you from going below .3Ω, doesn’t stop you from using anything over that. Did not do a voltage panel on it, but had no issue firing a 3.0Ω carto on the SubΩ. 4. The 40 amp limit is nothing more than a marketing ploy. You simply can not reach 40 amps on this device. 3.72v to a .3Ω load equals 12.4 amps.

As for the charger Aspire supplies with the device, will give it its due. I tried to overcharge the SubΩ battery by leaving it on for 24 hours, device came in at 4.22v off load just as it did when removing it as soon as it indicated it was charged. Still don’t suggest to anyone leaving a device on a charger unattended, over night, or that long, but if someone does at least the sample I was used showed it shouldn’t be a immediate issue.

Some final thoughts and notes. First want to thank my buddy Tyler for letting me borrow this device while he was visiting so I could run all these tests. The Aspire CF SubΩ battery really is just a non-replaceable battery mechanical mod with a little added protection in the end. It’s what I would refer to as a smart dumb mod. It won’t let you put too low a resistance on it (Stratus 22 is set up at .22 ohms, it refused to fire just flashed 7 times at me) or over drain the battery. Also wouldn’t fire a shorted coil either, another pro. Those are the only regulations though. Aspire’s claims on the battery itself are just that. They’re false numbers to attract. I believe they list .3-1Ω on the battery is to deter people from using mid-high resistance on it, which would show the 4.2v claim to be false even without any elaborate tests. It’s because of this I’m very leery of their new 18650 cells that will be hitting the market soon. All in all it’s not a bad device for what it is, but it is not what it has been billed by Aspire.

Aspire CF 2

I am a Simple Vaper!!

I am a simple vaper. My everyday setup is a Provari version 2 with a Kanger Aerotank Mega. I have no interest in sub-ohms, no interest in rebuilding, no interest in mechanicals, no interest in high end expensive devices. (I know, some would consider a Provari a high end device but I don’t.) Simple and easy is what I like. What is complicated to me may not be complicated to you. I like to be able to fill and vape. No fiddling with wicks or wire. No making sure I have the ohms that I want and if not then I have to fix it or just settle with what it is. That is why I love the Kanger Aerotanks and Genitanks. The new redesigned coils are perfect for me. The mega tanks hold the right amount of liquid to get me through a day of vaping. I don’t care about old technology, I only care about what works.

I do enjoy making my own e-liquid though. My first try at it was a failure but my second try was a success. I don’t find making e-liquid complicated though, probably because of the many e-liquid recipe sites that are out there. They take all the guess work out of it and the math. I am horrible at math.

This topic bothers me. Too many people feel ashamed for not using what others think they should and it shouldn’t be that way! You shouldn’t feel ashamed because you are using an Ego battery with a Kanger tank. If it works and you like it, use it! So, what I am saying is, whatever keeps you away from smoking is the best thing ever. It doesn’t have to be the most expensive set up. It’s what works for you. Don’t let anyone make you feel that your setup is sub par because it’s not. Don’t let anyone make you feel like you have to spend tons of money on your vaping equipment to fit in. As long as you are vaping, that’s all that matters. It’s that one cigarette that you didn’t have that matters. The best set up is the one you are using right now! Feel proud of yourself for not having that cigarette! Feel proud everyday that you don’t smoke!

RBA’s, RTA’s, and RDA’s….

Over two years ago the ecig world was introduced to the rebuildable atomizer. At the time it seemed to be a passing fad for tinkerers. They were expensive, messy, and required a certain amount of skill and patience to even use. While they’re not as mainstream as the replaceable head tanks (RHT) out there (like the Nautilus or Aerotank), as they evolved so has their popularity. Walk into any vape shop and they at least carry a clones. Where it used to be you would never see a RBA in the wild (only at conventions) now 1 in every 5 vapers I meet on the street are using one. We’ve even changed how we categorize these devices. Where RBA used to be the universal name, we now classify them as Rebuildable Tank Atomizer (RTA) or Rebuildable Drip Atomizer (RDA). Today we’ll be breaking down the differences between each type, wicking material, and wire types.

A quick note beforehand-  We here at VR don’t suggest anyone getting into rebuildables at the start. A major concern is unless you have a good comfort level of electrical know how, rba’s can be quite dangerous. These devices are user driven. You’re responsible for setting it up properly and knowing the limits of your device and batteries. Improper oxidization of stainless steel mesh can lead to short causing catastrophic failure of a mod. This is more dangerous when using a mechanical or “dumb” mod where the only protection is whatever is built into the battery. Improper coiling can lead to a short as well. Using too low of a resistance coil on a mod (again especially a mechanical) can be downright dangerous if using the improper batteries. Familiarize yourself with a multimeter, how lithium ion batteries work, and what C ratings stand for before purchasing one. The biggest reason people get into them is for cost savings long term (or they have a need to fiddle with their equipment), followed closely by wanting to create huge clouds.

RTA- As the name implies these have a tank reservoir for your juice. They come in two different set ups. Genesis style (the one that started it all) which is a vertical coil set up, or Kayfun style where the coil runs horizontally across the air intake. Genny’s have lost favor over the past year with vapers due to their increased learning curve and tendency to leak. Most people who use RTA’s are using a Kayfun style. The aforementioned RHT’s a very much based off this set up as well.

RDA- Originally designed to be a long term cheaper alternative to drip atty’s, RDA’s have evolved the most when it comes to rebuildables. No longer are they single coil limited airflow simple designs. RDA’s have multiple coil posts (usually 2 are the minimum), adjustable massive airflow, heatsinks, and large bore drip caps to give you as much vapor potential as possible. In other words they are the go to atomizer for cloud chasers. Another change from their infancy is they no longer are restricted to a horizontal set up only. They are a few vertical coil RDA’s on the market.

So what type is right for you? Depends really on what you want. Each type has their pros and cons, and certain versions are easier to build than others.

RBA

Genny’s are the easiest to refill and rebuild (once you’ve mastered the technique), but have the worst track record when it comes to leaks (the Kraken being one of the few you can lay on it’s side without losing all your juice). The biggest con with Genny’s is the hot leg issue, usually off the positive post. This can be fixed if you back loop your coil around the post (working on a better video showing what I mean), but it’s caused many a person to give up on them before they ever get their first puff. If you’re a fan of vertical coils and not a dripper though they are your only choice.

The Kayfun style has almost no leaking issues. Dramatic pressure changes (like on a flight) or taking too many dry hits are the only way if you’ve properly set it up. The drawback is the set up time. On a majority you have to completely tear it down and remove all the juice to change the wick and/or coil. It’s not something you can do in under 30 seconds. Once you’ve mastered making a coil (which they now sell a tool specifically make one for those who had trouble with the screw driver method) they’re very easy to get up and running. That really is the only con, which is why the Kayfun style has been the go to RTA over the last 18 months.

When it comes to the RDA’s they’re very model specific on their pros and cons. Some have a friendlier deck than others, some a higher amount of airflow than others, etc. It really does depend on what you’re looking for. The universal pro is they have the highest vapor production potential and flexibility of all the devices mentioned thus far. Universal con is you have to constantly add more juice (hence the name drip atty). This isn’t a fill and forget set up.

Once you know what type you’re going with, the hardest decision with RBA’s comes in price. Top end ones go for as much as $200+ and chinese “clones” can be found for as little as $10 from vendors. As we’ve already shown before, price does not necessarily dictate performance though when it comes to vaping. There are some very good clones out there at reasonable prices. Once you’ve made that choice, now you’ll also need to decide what wiring and wick material works best for you.

There are 3 major wire types on the market today for vaping. Nichrome, Kanthal, and Nickel. Nichrome is usually around 80% nickel and 20% chrome. It’s been used for years (1905) for heating elements in electrical applications. The big drawback is it’s very delicate and for those with a nickel allergy, there have been reports of this wire causing a reaction. Has a lower resistance than Kanthal, but not the lowest on this list. Kanthal is the most heavily used of the wire out there when it comes to vaping. It’s 55-65% iron, 20-30% chrome, and 4-7.5% aluminum. It’s the strongest of the materials on the list, has the highest resistance, and the lowest allergy potential. Nickel should only be used by people using a DNA40 based device. It has a very low resistance, is very fragile, and is downright unsafe to use on any device that isn’t temperature controlled. Again- DO NOT USE NICKEL WIRE UNLESS YOU HAVE A DNA40 DEVICE. What gauge wire you chose depends on what application. 32 was the standard for a long time, with more powerful devices or running at a higher wattage you’ll want to go a bit thicker (lower gauge). On my Provari with a ZAP for example use 32g, Kayfun with a micro coil 28g (1.4 ohms), on my DNA30 with a Kraken 28g. Remember the thicker the wire, the lower the resistance. You’ll also see a number of twisted wire set ups out there (like a Clapton) using a mix of types and wire sizes. We do not advocate sub-ohm’ing here at VR. It should only be done by those who know the risks and limits of their devices, so won’t get too far in depth on the more exotic set ups.

Wicking Material

This lead to the wicking material. There are a lot of options out there. You can use silica (fiber glass), cotton, rayon, ramie, stainless steel mesh, ss cable, ceramic, list seems endless. The most popular out there is organic cotton (the first of the cellulose based wicks on the list). Cheap, quick wicking, easy to get, and easy to manipulate this is heavily used for RDA’s and Kayfun style RTA’s (mainly horizontal set ups). The big draw back is you do have to change it quite often and can be toxic if burnt. Silica was one of the first materials used, requires no preparation to use, but also doesn’t perform as well in a vertical set up. Ecowool is the most popular form used which is of the braided variety. Stainless steel works great in a vertical set up but you requires the most prep time. If you get it in sheets you’ll have to cut and roll it yourself then oxidize it using a blow torch (like the ones used to make crème brulee) otherwise you run into serious issues. SS cable is usually used in conjunction with the SS mesh on vertical set ups and has better wicking potential, but is harder to oxidize properly and cut (you need cable cutters). Again mainly used in vertical set ups. Straight ceramic is very brittle (your pv/rba might survive a drop, the ceramic wick won’t), expensive, item specific, and requires a large break in period before they work correctly. Not to mention there have been a lot of health concerns regarding its use. The alternative is XC-116 (also known as Ready X Wick) which is a soft ceramic material, much like ecowool, but still has the same health concerns as the hard variety. Rayon and Ramie are cellulose based cotton alternatives. Ramie is one of the strongest natural fibers, has a higher heat resistance than it’s brethren, but also is harder to find. Rayon wicks the best of the 3, but at higher cost. You can also use hemp, bamboo toothpicks, pretty anything that will absorb liquid and handle the heat from the coil. These are just the mainstream options.

We’re not going to guide you on which RBA to buy, we here at VR have our favorites but as with all things vaping comes to down to personal taste. We’ll gladly give suggestions if you want, just ask in the comments section or contact us direct. There’s no perfect device out there, just one that’s perfect for you. You can also look through the many reviews on Youtube, or ask around at your local brick and mortar to find the one that you might think fits your needs. What will do is if you’re having issues with any device you’ve gotten is help you to get the best experience possible out of it.

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Vaping advocacy groups

On episode 19 we kind of skimmed the surface on the vaping advocacy organizations. Rather than do a show explaining what their function is and why, we here at VR figured it would be better to have a full write up with links. Sadly ecigs are under constant attack. Despite the scientific evidence to prove the contrary, vaping suffers from constant attacks by a myriad of opposition. Politicians, health organizations (especially the FDA), and of course big tobacco proclaiming how unsafe they are or how ineffective. This leads to unfair bans, taxes, regulations, and legislation. Remember this is a money issue. At this point there’s an estimated 25-30 million worldwide. In the US they estimate somewhere between 3-8 million vapers. What was thought of as a passing fad has become a true threat to BT’s and the FDA’s future incomes. They have the money and the backing of the US government (the FDA is a separate entity that exists outside the government’s control incase you didn’t know) to pretty much impose their will. So how do we vapers fight back and let our voices be heard?

Enter the advocacy groups. These are our lobbyists, the people doing all they can to try and get the truth regarding electronic cigarettes heard and fair regulations passed (we do need regulations, but not of the totalitarian nature the powers that be constantly reach for). While it’s still a tired cliché David vs Goliath fight, these organizations are showing we refuse to just roll over quietly.

CASAA The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association

Where else to begin but CASAA? This is the grandfather of all vaping advocacy groups. Started in 2009, they have been one of the most effective non-profit vaper consumer advocates in the United States. The only possible knock on CASAA is that it’s not a trade organization, limiting their funding and ability to lobby. They rely on donations and members to fund their efforts. Good news is they do have over 40,000 registered members as of February 2015 and that number continues to grow each month. CASAA is the gold standard when it comes to transparency and has the highest success rate for their campaigns of all the groups listed. If you’re not a member please take the time to sign up on their site today.

 

SFATA– Smoke-Free Alternatives Trade Association

Unlike CASAA, SFATA is a trade association. It also happens to be the largest in the industry. They’ve provided support to manufacturers, online vendors, distributors, bricks and mortar, wholesalers, pretty much every aspect that relates to the selling of ecigs. They go beyond that though. They’re an industry advocacy group that lobbies to the health organizations and regulators. They do everything in their power to ensure vaping products are differed from tobacco. It was SAFTA that was responsible with the first age verification program Age to Vape™, which over 240 vendors are using in their shops as of this writing. SAFTA is the most pro-active of all the advocacy groups.

AVA American Vaping Association

AVA is another non-profit organization like CASAA. Their focus is geared more toward the little guy. The small-medium sized businesses in the vaping world. A lot of the information on AVA pertains to the public health benefits, and of course finical potential, of personal vaporizers. Their president Gregory Conley is one of the most active in regards to dealing with Capitol Hill.

NOTBlowingSmoke.org

This is one of the newest advocacy groups to pop up. Created in California in response to their Still Blowing Smoke campaign. It’s almost a carbon copy to the SBS site, only exposing the truth to the false claims listed on that site. Though mainly targeted to CA, there’s still a lot of great information on the site that applies to vaping on the whole.

The Vaping Militia

Another Non-Profit organization. TVM despite their name is a non-violent advocacy group. I’ll use their own words to describe them- “The Vaping Militia is committed to protecting the rights and health of vapors by advocating for safe public use of personal vaporizers. We strongly believe and promote peaceful and professional activism/advocacy.” There’s a lot of great information on the site, plenty of ways for you to help out, and they also do a webcast every Friday night 8pm PST/11pm EST.

There are other groups out there, but figured we’ll start with these 5 for now (a good roundish number). Remember the only way we can keep our ability to vape is by fighting for it through the proper channels. Supporting advocacy groups, sending letters and e-mails to your representatives, showing and speaking up at any hearings regarding ecig legislation, peaceful protests, and spreading the knowledge in a respectful way. Acting a fool, disrupting the peace, and any other like action only adds fuel to the already raging inferno against vaping. 

Time changes everything

At the end of last year as I approached the 4 year mark away from cigarettes wrote an article about how unhappy I was with the world of vaping. After 5 months can’t say I feel the same way. It’s not that the vaping community has pulled a 180 and everything is sunshine and rainbows. Climate is still dicey and as we talked about on episode 18 of the podcast we’re becoming our own worst enemy in regards to the upcoming legislation. Lately though have shifted my sights to the good that’s still going on in the community.

There still are helpful people out there. Vapers who have taken up electronic cigarettes to get away from smoking, and who try and help others to do the same. These are the folks you run into at meets and conventions (and sometimes just on the street) who love just sharing their experiences. They don’t judge you by what device you have, what brand juice you’re using, or anything else. The fact you vape is all that matters. I’ve had the pleasure of running into a few of these types of vapers at work recently. People walking down the streets of DC with egos, box mods, the occasional tube using ce4’s to high end rba’s. After the awkward acknowledgement moment, some great conversation has been shared. There are far more people out there who have chosen the PV route to quit than we seem to give credit for.

Generosity hasn’t left the vaping community either. It’s harder to find because it’s far more widespread than in the old days. Where everyone congregated to the forums in their PIF efforts only a few years ago, now they do it everywhere. My personal favorites are those that practice their acts of kindness in person quietly with little notoriety. You have organizations set up to donate supplies to the troops. Not to mention groups helping out vapers who are down on their luck. There still a lot of positivity going on.

Of course there’s the most important fact in all this that is overlooked far too often- Vaping has been shown to work. It’s been just over 6 years since the first time I heard of ecigs in America. It was originally viewed as a passing fad by the mainstream and that was it. Time has proven that to be false. While the hardware has changed over the years, so has the numbers of users. It keeps growing daily. The people who switched in the early days have stuck with it at a surprising success rate. One far higher than any other smoking cessation or alternative out there.

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Have no problem admitting I was wrong. There are still people out there who view this as more than a hobby or a cloud competition. You just have to look harder to find them.

Flying with E-cigs

     I thought this would be a good topic to have posted. Everyone flies at one time or another. Flying with e-cigs is pretty simple, now. Here are my tips for flying with e-cigs.

     Always remember the 3-1-1 rule. 3 oz containers or less, 1 quart sized zip lock bag, 1 per person. Now, you can take as many 3 oz bottles as long as they fit in the 1 quart zip lock bag. I like to use the kind with the slider across the top. They are slightly bigger and you can fit more. 1 oz equals 29.5735 ml, so you’ll be able to take lots of e-liquid with you but this also includes all the shampoo, conditioner and other liquids that you want to take so make sure it all will fit. If it doesn’t fit, you have to leave it or put it in your checked bag. You can put unlimited amounts of liquids in your checked bag. If I know that I will be checking a bag I will put all of my liquids in there to avoid the hassle of pulling them out and putting them in the bin with my shoes. It makes it faster to get through the security check. Some people don’t like putting all of their liquids in their checked bag out of fear that the airline will lose their checked bag, so its totally up to you.

     Now on to mods with removable batteries. They can go anywhere. I like to wrap them up each individually so they don’t hit one another and leave dents or chip the paint if there is any. We all know that they aren’t gentle when handling our luggage. I also put them in a toiletry bag all together. I haven’t had any issues doing it this way. Some of my bigger mods I’ll put in my checked bag if I am taking one.

     Devices with batteries that aren’t removable: I like to keep them with me in my carry on or personal item. If they are small devices, I will put them in a glasses case and just leave them in my carry on. Put them on top though, so if you get questioned about them you can get to them easier. These can’t go in your checked bag because of the battery.

     Batteries that are used in mods need to be put in a plastic battery box. You can find them fairly cheap just about anywhere. I put them in a zip lock bag and keep them in my carry on or personal item as well. Batteries have to be with you. They can’t go in your checked bag. I have heard that they can expand and vent from the pressure changes in the bottom of the plane. Some people will tape the connections and just throw them in a bag but I like them in a battery box instead. They are made for certain size batteries and keep them from coming in contact with other batteries or anything metal.

     Tanks, atomizers and anything with liquid in them have a tendency to leak due to the pressure change so if you can, empty everything out so you don’t have a mess. Also, wrap them in a paper towel and put them in a zip lock bag too. Some people will put them in pill bottles so if they do leak it wont get all over your stuff. If you keep the liquid in them, then you will have to put them in your quart bag with all of your other liquids. If you empty them, then you can put them anywhere, carry on or personal item. You can also put them in your checked bag, of course. Some people, like me, still use cartos and carto tanks. You can put the cartos anywhere. I put them in my glasses case with my small devices. Then they are right there together so when I get to my destination I can screw one on and vape away!

     Chargers, are the same as all of your other chargers. I put them all in a zip lock bag together. Nice and neat. And you don’t want to forget these.

     Just remember to be calm and do some research on the TSA guidelines for flying especially for your airline itself. They are all a little different in their own way. Do what you can to make it simple and easy to get through the security check points. Don’t be sloppy about your packing. Be organized because it will make it faster for you and everyone else. TSA knows about e-cigs and it should be pretty easy to get through but if you get stopped and questioned about a device or battery, be nice and explain in a nice calm manner. This TSA agent may not know anything about them and this is your chance to educate them. Remember, we want this to be a positive experience for e-cigs, not negative. Oh and never ever vape on a plane. Doing so could get you a set of hand cuffs as soon as you step off the plane. Be careful vaping in the terminals too. Always ask first. If you must vape while on a lay over, do so in the bathrooms. Blow as little vapor out as possible and you’ll be good to go. That’s what I did and didn’t have a problem.

     I hope this helps. My first time flying with e-cigs was scary. I was so nervous but I had no reason what so ever to be nervous. It was simple and worry free. I followed the rules and went through without a hitch. Good luck and happy flying.

A brief history on Vapor Reporter

This all started with a number of phone conversations between Morandir and his good friend SnowDragon back in 2011. Show didn’t even have a name at that point. It was a case where they jokingly said to each other people learn more from listening to them talk vape for an hour than they could by searching the forums out for a week. They recorded 3 episodes (which Mor still has on his computer and might one day post up), but they had no real place to host it. They let a few of their Skype buddies listen to it and they enjoyed it, but it never found a home. SnowDragon opened up his shop (Area 51 vapors) and didn’t have the time to record anymore. Fast forward to 2012. Morandir met Willard Roads through a vaping forum he was admin’ing at the time. They got to talking more and more off forum, and found out Will played a big part in the .com bubble of the early and mid 90’s. Willard wanted to create a website and podcast that focused instead on reviewing, on helping new and veteran vapors. They launched Vapor Reporter first here on WordPress, and then later moved it over to it’s own site (only to have it moved backed to WP currently). They had recorded 9 shows, though only 5 ever made it on-line, and despite them not being on iTunes or having a RSS feed they were getting 50-200 listens an ep. Morandir went by Joe Friday back in those days because of his position working with a vaping company, he didn’t want anything to come off as biased (side note Will was not Will’s real name either). It didn’t last long though. Around October of that year they had started having some problems with the direction of the site. Will wasn’t updating it enough to Mor’s tastes, and when he did post an article it was edited to a point where it was no longer recognizable. It took 3 hours to record each show, then Will would whittle it down to an hour and add all his post production which would take anywhere between 2-3 weeks. They had a couple of heart to hearts, a very long talk on their way home from VaperCon, but still nothing was moving forward. It all came to a head before the end of the year where personal issues made Will leave the project. He turned the site over to Mor, and well… He only had basic experience in html, no idea how to tackle the coding used on the site, and anytime he adjusted anything it would crash. On top of all that by then through his admin work on the forums and all the feelings from the whole experience, Mor was burnt out from doing a vaping show. Mind of Morandir was born, and while he still discussed vaping (especially the early episodes of MoM), it was really for whatever was on his mind at the time. Whether that was news, politics, personal experience, etc. So it was Vapor Reporter was put to bed.

In February of 2014 Mor reconnected with Patrick Duffy. They had met him while touring some of the Baltimore area vape shops the year before hand. Duff was a big fan of VR, and was wondering what had happened with it. Mor explained to him the story, turns out he has a background in web design and podcasting, so together they started up the Rogue Intel network. MoM came over, as did all the old VR eps, and they tried doing a show called “Duff and Mor”. Both knew Patrick wasn’t the co-host for VR, and at that point Mor still didn’t want to do it. Duff and Mor failed, they had different views on what they wanted from the show, and it lead to Morandir taking a break from the internet almost entirely for a few months. During that time he stepped down from his “management” position at RI, and seriously debated selling all his podcasting equipment and just being done with it. After a lot of soul searching he decided to get back into it. In September he returned to doing MoM and Patrick was to do his own show “Rogue Intel Prime” (which he ended up being on far more than he ever should have been). VR stayed retired, that was until we approached December. For his 4th vaping anniversary decided to do a very vapecentric podcast. Asked his good buddy Rocco if he would join him on it, to which he said yes, so when Mor went to visit him for his birthday they sat down and recorded two hours of them just talking about their vaping journeys and what’s going on in the vaping world. They had a blast doing it, and from there was born the current incarnation of Vapor Reporter. Instead of it being an NPR type show that Mor didn’t enjoy listening to, they made it a much more laid back atmosphere. Our tagline says it all “I just don’t want to smoke”. It’s a show not just covering the news in the vaping world, or giving tips to vapers, but a place for people to discuss their vaping journey. We’ve had people like SnowDragon, Ms. Stephanie (who has now become the permanent co-host), and our buddy Travis on. We still cover the what’s going on in the vaping world, and do a few reviews here and there, but our goal is to share fellow vapers stories.

Recently we left RI network all together. Patrick and all of us here at VR had very different views on what direction to go, and for the best of all parties involved determined it was good for us to part ways. He is now free to make RIP into whatever he wants to, and we’re able to keep VR what we’ve always envisioned. Our hope was we could eventually get access to the WordPress site for Vapor Reporter, which as of today we have. That way we could all write up any reviews or articles we felt needed on top of the weekly show. When we do any review, it’s always very technical. Something you can’t really convey via video as well as you can in written word and with graphs (though we still might do little product view videos just showing you the dimensions and such on YouTube).

So there’s our story. Anyone who wants to join an episode please let us know, we’ll work around your schedule.